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Electra ([personal profile] starlady) wrote2009-05-18 06:00 pm

TRC 221 translation

Intense day at work was intense. I do not know our products by their colors! I do not drink our products (or our competition's, for that matter)! Pretend I'm color-blind, sales reps, and tell me your order by product # or name!

Ahem. Still no color pages this week. Something's going down--who wants to speculate? A full color chapter? A 29th volume? Color spread at the end?

!!! page 01
Yuuko: There is no need for you to bear anything more.
You have already suffered enough.

And the others of you as well.

Chapitre 221: The Providence That Was Reserved
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!!! page 02
Yuuko: However,

Even if we match our price,
It is difficult to give people life.

It's not that you will be able simply to be reborn, living your life and forgetting everything.

Even if you are born anew,
Your memories will remain.

The happy memories and the harsh memories.
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!!! page 03
And you will meet "this time" once again.

Shaoran: This time?
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!!! page 04
Yuuko: ...Now,
It is not the case that time is simply flowing in only one way from the past to the future.

The past and the future are mixed,
Multiply twisted and entangled.

Sakura: Because that person broke the principle...

Yuuko: Yes.
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!!! page 05
Yuuko: But
There is also a providence that is not broken.

The past and the future--

What decides everything is only choices in the "present."
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!!! page 06-07
Yuuko: You will go through new lives.

But once again,
You will encounter the others of you.

What will decide what happens when you encounter them

Is you. [TN: All these "you"s are in the plural.]
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!!! page 08
Shaoran: ...I..

Hurt various people...

Even Sakura...

Yuuko: That was not your will.

You were merely made to move according to Fei Wong's expectation.
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!!! page 09
Shaoran: But

The one who did it
...was me.

FX: Clench

Sakura: Even
If that is true,

If what you have done is a sin,

I want to bear that sin as well.
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!!! page 10
Shaoran: ...Sakura...

Sakura: If I'm punished sometime because of that, that's fine.
I want to live with you.
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!!! page 11
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!!! page 12
Yuuko: The choice is made.
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!!! page 13
FX: Gentle movement

FX: Magic

Shaoran: After we're born, we...

Yuuko: You will come into the world in the same dimension, the same world, and the same time.
Without fail, you will be able to meet.
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!!! page 14-15
Sakura: I can finally say it.

I...

Love you.
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!!! page 16
Shaoran: Me too.


The world's tomorrow,
Their future,
Will certainly come...


Best chapter yet, I say. What are the odds that the clones are Shaoran Jr.'s parents? 
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[identity profile] dumdumdumbutt.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so conflicted

I wanna say

omg clones yes finally ;___;

and agree with "Best chapter yet, I say."

but

"What are the odds that the clones are Shaoran Jr.'s parents?"

argh CLAMP.
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[identity profile] dumdumdumbutt.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
also, thanks for the translations again xD

[identity profile] shinigami-lady.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
and once again im so agree with you.
argh CLAMP!

[identity profile] shinigami-lady.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
by the way, thanks so much for the translations starlady-sama!

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the translation!

What are the odds that the clones are Shaoran Jr.'s parents?

I've been hoping for this for weeks now 8D

[identity profile] marie1971.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
i think if this is the last book the color pages will come at the end thanks for the translation.

[identity profile] chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
-What are the odds that the clones are Shaoran Jr.'s parents?

this, I am confused by that.

Wasn't it already established that R!Syao's parents are CCS!Sakura and Syaoran? why would it be the clones? they don't have the same magical powers. Also, why would C!Syao teach him chinese martial arts and the Li magic? let alone have the jian sword if that were true? Sorry for askin, I am just confused by that statement ^^;

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
It wouldn't be the clones exactly, it would be their reincarnations. So, they wouldn't have to have the same magic, abilities, or items.

Narcolico says

(Anonymous) 2009-05-19 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the translation.

It was never established that CCS and Shaoran were their parents.

If the Clones are the parents, then those Seishirou's statements about Shoran looking like his father are starting to make sense...

[identity profile] chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
hmm I see your point

however, I thought that it was pretty clear that CCS!Saku and Syao are the parents of R!Syao.

Regarding the clone matter though, I would hope to see that they had their own separate lives away from R!Syao (in a separate country). That seems to make more sense to me than the clones being R!Syao's parents.

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Me too! *points to icon's keywords* But a few chapters ago, we're told that Sakura met CCS!Sakura in a dream, and that's how she got the staff. It was all a big trick :/

But it wouldn't make sense to interrupt the final battle against FWR to tell us that the clones are somewhere else. However, to interrupt it to explain to us that these two characters who've just joined the battle are actually the reincarnations of the clones? Does make sense.

Besides, they'll both keep their memories. It would be awful if they were born in a totally random country and never got to find out if R!Syao and the others won, or what.

[identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Not exactly. There is a great deal of ambiguity as to whether or not Jr.'s parents are the same Shaoran and Sakura from CCS--Lady Sakura, Jr.'s mother, says that the Sakura who gave her the Star Staff (who is most likely the Sakura from CCS) was "from another world." Possibly this could mean that the Sakura with the Star Staff was a younger version of Lady Sakura, but personally I think that Jr.'s parents are not the same Shaoran and Sakura from CCS. In retrospect, Jr.'s inheriting the name and the sword seem rather not CCS-worldly. Neither do his parents' clothes.

Re: Narcolico says

[identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oo, that's a good point.

[identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
But Yuuko just said in this chapter that the clones will definitely encounter the other versions of themselves. On balance, that probably doesn't mean that the clones are Jr.'s parents, but I also don't think that CCS!Shaoran and Sakura are Jr.'s parents. Maybe.

[identity profile] outou.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
You made a very good point about Junior's father passing on his name--it's apparently historically taboo in China to name someone after someone else. Granted, it's also historically taboo to marry your cousin in China, and CLAMP didn't pay much regard to that, but...

Considering that the clones will be keeping their memories, the idea that they could reincarnate into Li Xiaolang and Sakura Kinomoto seems right out, as well.

[identity profile] mikayukixx.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
EEEEPPPPPPPPPP!!!!<3 ;O
thanks for the translation <33333333333333333
I could die in peace

[identity profile] tiggerpuss.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

[identity profile] laury-kos.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
this chapter was sooo beautiful!!!
they deserve their happy ending!, for sure!!
can't wait to see their life together TT-TT!!!
so happy they get to keep their memories too :3

[identity profile] tiljaunique.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks starlady for a wonderful chapter!

What are the odds that the clones are Shaoran Jr.'s parents?
Of course, you took the words right out of my mouth. I have the same strong feeling about that as the twisted truth. So that would mean that Sakura and Syaoran were never the ones from CCS in the first place. That would actually be a relief. I was beginning to think that Mokona had forgotten her original CCS designs.

[identity profile] cutesherry.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
I can understand the doubts of many fans about Parents|SxS and also how wonderfully convenient, plot wise, it would be for them not to be the CCS|SxS but better to be actually the reincarnated clones from TRC, it would explain quite well why father and son looks exactly the same...but still, you are forgetting an iron clad sentence repeated enough by both Yuuko and FWR for us to remember it for a lifetime: "Syaoran is Clow Reed blood related relative", having inherited those powers mainly from his father's side, who is a Li. Starting from the point Clow Reed was undoubtedly recognized as being the same as CCS, they can only be CCS|SxS since they are the only ones who could have given birth to someone who could be said related to Clow Reed through blood ties.

[identity profile] outou.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yet Li Xiaolang is only distantly related to Clow (it's obvious by his surname alone), whereas F.W.R. has insinuated that Junior is Clow's direct descendant.

Besides, we now know that Clow gave up what was left of his magical powers to save Syaoran. Wouldn't it be possible for those powers to be passed on to him, in order to better enable him to change the future? And have we not seen Junior's father use Clow's magic--something that Li Xiaolang never demonstrated the ability to do?

Furthermore, as the clones are being reincarnated, couldn't one of them be reborn as a true descendant of Clow?

[identity profile] cutesherry.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The people from either the Li or Reed families are the ones and only people that could be said to be 'descendant' of Clow Reed since Clow's father was a Reed and his mother a Li. This is established and confirmed knowledge. There is no such thing as a "direct descendant", because Clow Reed do not have children.

As for Clow's magic passing to Clone|Syaoran, you are twisting a bit what happened there: Clow's magic and life are a payment, not some kind of transfer of power ^^;; And I suspect this price is actually barely enough to save his life and enable Clone|Syao's rebirth in the future, it must be very expensive to save a soul that way x___x At least, this is how I understood things went on.

Now, unlike what it seems, it's not like I absolutely want them to be CCS, actually I resent Clamp for making them suffer so much and screw up their lives so far together with their kid :(
But for the time being, I see no solid reasoning that would undoubtedly disqualify them as the CCS|SxS couple. Of course, there is also no reason that would absolutely disqualify them as being the reincarnated clones either ^^

The part involving the fight stopped in chapter219 (chapters 220 and 221 were about the clones); I think we will be back with the battle in chapter 222, and seeing how we are dangerously nearing the end, I believe Clamp should give us a key and absolute revelation that would identify definitely the identity of Parents|SxS~

[identity profile] chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I can agree with that. However, I think there is stronger evidence that its CCS!Saku and Syao who are R!Syao's parents more so than the clones. But hey, this is TRC, apparently anything can happen

When the two were putting the worlds back together, Sakura was using the star magic, while Syaoran was using the Li magic, just like his son. There were also various points made in the series that made it clear (at least, from what I could tell) that most of the evidence points to CCS!Saku and Syao being R!Syao's parents. Like I said before, R!Syao inherited his father's jian sword. He also uses the Shorai spells, just like his father. Another thing, when P!Saku and Syao were turning back their own time, they used the same magic (the star magic and the Li magic)

Also, so R!Syao could even go on his journey in the first place, P!Sakura gave up the star wand as a price. Yuuko said eariler in xxholic that CCS!Saku and Syao are LIVING in the Japan we know. R!Syao also comes from that Japan.

As for the dream P!Saku was referring to in Chap.217. We know that CCS!Sakura often saw dreams of the future. They were never of the present or of the past. So, I think that CCS!Sakura was giving her star wand to her future self, which would be P!Sakura.

C!Sakura never was able to use the star wand, let alone the star magic, so it wouldn't explain how she would be P!Saku. CCS!Sakura CREATED that magic herself. Same with C!Syao, and how he is unable to use the Li magic. Just because the two are reincarnated, doesn't mean that they obtain this instantly, just like cutesherry pointed out. The clones were made after R!Syao made his wish to turn back time. I don't get how they could be his parents, when before that distortion, they didn't even exist.

C!Syao and Saku being R!Syao's parents just doesn't make that much sense to me, nor do I see enough evidence supporting that. I think CLAMP made it clear that it wasn't the clones, but you can never really tell at this point. I really hope not though x_x;

[identity profile] cutesherry.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I couldn't agree with you more ^^ Unfortunately, things are going so crazy in TRC lately that I don't even dare to believe in my own thoughts ^^;;
But as you said, Clamp pretty much spent their whole time, since the very first volumes of both TRC and Holic, throwing hints right and left about the *mysterious* and invisible parents to be CCS|SxS. And for the parents to use the exact same magic, specially the Star Magic in Sakura's case, Syaoran's chinese jiang, the fact they both are from CCS=Holic world, them being related to Clow Reed, even up to their chinese fashion should indeed be definite and absolute proofs of their identities.
That said, Clamp has been using a VERY convenient excuse: that the Logic of the World was overthrown and that everything was a mess, that even the Past and Future were mixed...from that point on, what seems so 'logic' might not be and Clamp might just as well use this *excuse* to make up some crazy out of the world scenario *unfortunately*

Finally, that aside, I really want to know where are Parents|SxS bodies? (we can see that they are somehow transparent in the fight)

[identity profile] chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
argh I know, curse that for being into play. But in all seriousness, if this is just a lousy excuse to make the claim that the clones are the parents, that would just be messed up...and I would be totally enraged because they are negating what already happened. (cause I like the idea that is already presented, CCS!Saku and Syao being the parents of R!Syao and Watanuki)

Good question on the bodies note...um...if it were CCS!Saku and Syao,I am sure they kept it somewhere safe. Touya and Yukito may be looking after them (with Kero and Tomoyo...or maybe them).

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